Comments on: Op-Ed: Give tithes for anti-marriage equality TV ads http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/ The University of Maine student newspaper since 1875 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 17:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 1equalityUSA http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3223 1equalityUSA Wed, 30 Sep 2009 13:31:20 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3223 Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere: Martin Luther King, Jr. Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. -- Abraham Lincoln Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere: Martin Luther King, Jr.

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power. — Abraham Lincoln

]]> By: 1equalityUSA http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3222 1equalityUSA Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:56:10 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3222 Jesus never talked about gays, nor are gays mentioned in the Ten Commandments, nor in the Summary of the Law. No prophet expounds upon gays. It really wasn’t that concerning in early churches. Being judgmental is the worse offense. That’s spoken of so often that it would seem to be the more important lesson for us. I understand "antiformal's" concern. Jesus must not have shared this concern, as He never spoke about gays. Much has been learned about how the human psyche and physiological effects can alter one’s sexuality. Perhaps, all knowing Jesus was so quiet about this subject because He saw what rabbinical Paul (Saul) could not see. People have always been gay and always will be. It’s not unusual. When we leave these temporal bodies, flesh will cease, gender will cease, the only thing we will have will be a spirit, defined by how we treated others. Love endures. You’ve been commanded to love, not point fingers in judgment. Jesus never talked about gays, nor are gays mentioned in the Ten Commandments, nor in the Summary of the Law. No prophet expounds upon gays. It really wasn’t that concerning in early churches. Being judgmental is the worse offense. That’s spoken of so often that it would seem to be the more important lesson for us.
I understand “antiformal’s” concern. Jesus must not have shared this concern, as He never spoke about gays.
Much has been learned about how the human psyche and physiological effects can alter one’s sexuality. Perhaps, all knowing Jesus was so quiet about this subject because He saw what rabbinical Paul (Saul) could not see. People have always been gay and always will be. It’s not unusual. When we leave these temporal bodies, flesh will cease, gender will cease, the only thing we will have will be a spirit, defined by how we treated others. Love endures. You’ve been commanded to love, not point fingers in judgment.

]]> By: antiformal http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3211 antiformal Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:38:24 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3211 Homosexuality doesn't belong in heaven and it doesn't belong in the law. God is infallible and states clearly that homosexuality is an abomination that must not be condoned. What are we but a pit of sinners if we do not prohibit such activity? We have an obligation to the lord our god to discourage in the most gentile way possible the actions of homosexuals. Homosexuality doesn’t belong in heaven and it doesn’t belong in the law. God is infallible and states clearly that homosexuality is an abomination that must not be condoned. What are we but a pit of sinners if we do not prohibit such activity?
We have an obligation to the lord our god to discourage in the most gentile way possible the actions of homosexuals.

]]> By: 1equalityUSA http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3193 1equalityUSA Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:05:29 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3193 Fr. Marty Kurylowicz, Thank you for this very powerful letter. Thanks for taking the time to write these thoughts and publish them. Kindness resonates in your words, as though you stopped a bully in the school yard. Likely, Bishop Malone is too busy counting his newly attained hate dollars to bother reading this. He might even be rolling in it, laughing giddily in the sacristy. Will he be given the same measure of mercy from our Father that he has shown to people here on Earth? Fr. Marty Kurylowicz,
Thank you for this very powerful letter. Thanks for taking the time to write these thoughts and publish them. Kindness resonates in your words, as though you stopped a bully in the school yard. Likely, Bishop Malone is too busy counting his newly attained hate dollars to bother reading this. He might even be rolling in it, laughing giddily in the sacristy. Will he be given the same measure of mercy from our Father that he has shown to people here on Earth?

]]> By: Fr. Marty Kurylowicz http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3191 Fr. Marty Kurylowicz Wed, 30 Sep 2009 02:58:39 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3191 I wrote a comment to a news article in the Bangor Daily News about Maine’s Catholic Bishop Malone’s antigay statement, in support of Marriage Equality and challenging the his ignorance about human sexuality and the bible. ...Same-sex marriage is a dangerous sociological experiment that many of us believe will have negative consequences for society as a whole,” said [Bishop] Malone in the message, according to the Bangor Daily News. “Children need the love of a mother and a father.”
 This statement is cruel and untrue. People against Marriage Equality do not base their public statements on facts either from science or the bible. It is a repeat of the time the Vatican was condemning Galileo, because they insisted that Galileo was going against the bible that it is the sun that revolves around the earth. Children need people who are honest and truthful. Children are not safe around people who publicly speak out against Marriage Equality, because in truth these people have had no formal study in human sexuality or the bible and yet they without any intellectual thought speak out and harm innocent people. This is irresponsible adult behavior, which is harmful for children to witness. This has been proven to have “negative consequences” for children, consult developmental psychology. With all due respect, it is without a question that Bishop Malone would not be able to pass graduate course exams on human sexuality, sexual orientation, and gender identity or biblical studies. Prove me wrong!!! And if Bishop Malone cannot pass these exams today, than before God he needs to publically retract what he said against Marriage Equality. If not, then Bishop Malone needs to go back to the seminary to study moral theology. The best for well-being and safety of all children would be if people against Marriage Equality spent their money to academically study human sexuality, sexual orientation, gender identity and the bible. This is what children need the truth. People speaking out on such life and death issues should not speak out of ignorance and fear, thus spreading hatred and violence that indiscriminately is severely harmful to all children. The truth will set you free - not ignorance and fear. Fr. Marty Kurylowicz http://fathermartykurylowicz.blogspot.com/2009/09/maine-bishop-fights-marriage-equality.html I wrote a comment to a news article in the Bangor Daily News about Maine’s Catholic Bishop Malone’s antigay statement, in support of Marriage Equality and challenging the his ignorance about human sexuality and the bible.

…Same-sex marriage is a dangerous sociological experiment that many of us believe will have negative consequences for society as a whole,” said [Bishop] Malone in the message, according to the Bangor Daily News. “Children need the love of a mother and a father.”


This statement is cruel and untrue. People against Marriage Equality do not base their public statements on facts either from science or the bible. It is a repeat of the time the Vatican was condemning Galileo, because they insisted that Galileo was going against the bible that it is the sun that revolves around the earth.

Children need people who are honest and truthful. Children are not safe around people who publicly speak out against Marriage Equality, because in truth these people have had no formal study in human sexuality or the bible and yet they without any intellectual thought speak out and harm innocent people. This is irresponsible adult behavior, which is harmful for children to witness. This has been proven to have “negative consequences” for children, consult developmental psychology.

With all due respect, it is without a question that Bishop Malone would not be able to pass graduate course exams on human sexuality, sexual orientation, and gender identity or biblical studies. Prove me wrong!!!

And if Bishop Malone cannot pass these exams today, than before God he needs to publically retract what he said against Marriage Equality. If not, then Bishop Malone needs to go back to the seminary to study moral theology.

The best for well-being and safety of all children would be if people against Marriage Equality spent their money to academically study human sexuality, sexual orientation, gender identity and the bible. This is what children need the truth. People speaking out on such life and death issues should not speak out of ignorance and fear, thus spreading hatred and violence that indiscriminately is severely harmful to all children.

The truth will set you free – not ignorance and fear.
Fr. Marty Kurylowicz
http://fathermartykurylowicz.blogspot.com/2009/09/maine-bishop-fights-marriage-equality.html

]]> By: labrat http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3163 labrat Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:42:37 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3163 sorry wrong article! sorry wrong article!

]]> By: labrat http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3162 labrat Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:41:37 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3162 Mr. Z in your example about the Houlton man that overdosed on xanax and "liquid methadone"....do you mind telling me where the xanax came from? Or does no one bother to find out who gave this person that drug simply because methadone was involved? I mean, in reality the man probably wouldn't have died if he'd taken either methadone or xanax by themselves...so that means BOTH drugs were equally responsible for his death. NO NO wait! Since a drug, by it's very nature, has no will or fever for killing...I would say the only "thing" responsible for the death was the addiction that drove him to take two medication he knew would kill him! The irony is, if this man had been in methadone treatment at a clinic he probably wouldn't have died...and again isn't that the whole point? To keep people alive and stable? Mr. Z in your example about the Houlton man that overdosed on xanax and “liquid methadone”….do you mind telling me where the xanax came from? Or does no one bother to find out who gave this person that drug simply because methadone was involved? I mean, in reality the man probably wouldn’t have died if he’d taken either methadone or xanax by themselves…so that means BOTH drugs were equally responsible for his death.

NO NO wait! Since a drug, by it’s very nature, has no will or fever for killing…I would say the only “thing” responsible for the death was the addiction that drove him to take two medication he knew would kill him!

The irony is, if this man had been in methadone treatment at a clinic he probably wouldn’t have died…and again isn’t that the whole point? To keep people alive and stable?

]]> By: 1equalityUSA http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3129 1equalityUSA Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:58:33 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3129 Everyone talks about how churches, involving themselves in American politics, should not be privy to tax exempt status, but it seems to be becoming even more blatant. How do we stop it? Everyone talks about how churches, involving themselves in American politics, should not be privy to tax exempt status, but it seems to be becoming even more blatant. How do we stop it?

]]> By: FlexSF http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3128 FlexSF Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:24:36 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3128 I can't believe you contributed $5 because of an evil gaze from a religious zealot next to you. Your $5 will cause real harm to the intimate lives of the people that you seem to support. It will also facilitate the reckless ignorance espoused by the Catholic, money laundering corporation. I would like to see the institution destroyed. May the federal lawsuits against it be a thumb in it's eyes until it is delivered from it's blind bigotry! I can’t believe you contributed $5 because of an evil gaze from a religious zealot next to you. Your $5 will cause real harm to the intimate lives of the people that you seem to support. It will also facilitate the reckless ignorance espoused by the Catholic, money laundering corporation.

I would like to see the institution destroyed. May the federal lawsuits against it be a thumb in it’s eyes until it is delivered from it’s blind bigotry!

]]> By: Lynn http://mainecampus.com/2009/09/28/op-ed-give-tithes-for-anti-marriage-equality-tv-ads/#comment-3127 Lynn Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:21:10 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3723557#comment-3127 More power to you Daniel Bowman! More power to you Daniel Bowman!

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