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Editorial: Opponents of same-sex marriage don’t have a leg to stand on

The UMaine UVote committee recently tried to organize public debate on the same-sex marriage referendum to be voted on in November. The No on 1/Protect Maine Equality Campaign, which supports the rights of same-sex couples to marry, accepted the invitation. Stand for Marriage Maine, the leading Yes on 1 organization, declined.

Stand for Marriage Maine decided not to attend the debate because they felt they “needed to do more outreach to voters,” and didn’t have time for public forums, according to Associate Dean of Students Angel Loredo.

Proponents of Yes on 1 have built their message on deception and skipped out on the debate for fear of the outcome of a real, rational debate. Instead, they focus on methods that facilitate playing on people’s fears such as the TV ads Mainers have seen for the last few weeks.

The UMaine community would benefit from a debate about the same-sex marriage referendum. It would enlighten the unaware and let people know how Question 1 affects them, the campus and the state of Maine. Students, faculty, campus employees and visitors would all have been given a chance to see what each side brings to the table and then made a more educated decision Nov. 3. Instead, the campus is left without that benefit.

If members of Stand for Marriage Maine had any desire to benefit Mainers and students, they would have agreed to attend the debate and offer a rational argument for their position. Their actions do nothing but cast a shadow of doubt over their ability to defend their convictions against criticism.

Public forums are a place for truth, the conspicuous absence of which in the Yes on 1 TV ads casts even more doubt on the merits of Stand for Marriage Maine’s argument.

  • JohnVisser

    The opponents of equality and civil rights are always afraid of the truth. And the truth is there is nothing to be afraid of. . .

  • Douglas

    Or you could look at the fact that they have many scheduled debates in other places. Also, getting your reasoning from the dean of students as to why they declined the invitation is like asking McCain why Obama holds the policies that he has. You MIGHT take a look at the fact that the students at the University of Maine are heavily left leaning, that our target vote is not young college age individuals, or that a similar debate in a town hall would be a more productive use of their time. But then, that would require a basic understanding of how political campaigns are run, wouldn’t it? And heaven forbid that you do your homework before you report on anything. I mean, that would make you an actual journalist, and none of us want THAT…

  • Michael

    Radical anti-gay activists have one goal–to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else. Anything that impedes this goal is something they are not going to do. From their point of view, why should they bother with this campus debate when they can spend their time and money making commercials full of lies to hide the real issue? As a Californian, I can assure you that we went through the same lies and subterfuge here last year when the same groups worked to take away the civil rights of law-abiding, taxpaying, gay Americans via Prop. 8.

    Good luck and may God bless all the pro-equality Maine citizens with victory!

  • Michael

    Or you could look at the fact that homophobia is a sin and those caught up in it should be seeking deliverance rather than trying to recruit others into this sin. Freedom from homophobia is possible. Thousands and thousands have been able to walk away from it.

  • Dale

    Get the word out. The civil law reasons for equality means everyone in Maine wins.

  • Douglas

    My sister was a lesbian. I’m not afraid of her, I don’t hate her. I disapprove of the lifestyle she led, but I’d disapprove of her lifestyle if she were a drug addict as well. OMG I MUST BE SO BIGOTED AND HATEFUL TO PEOPLE WHO DO DRUGS AMIRITE? Try again. The radical left who do nothing but throw the idea around that all people who oppose homosexual marriage are homophobes are just as bad, if not worse, than the radical right who say that God hates fags. Both groups are wrong.



    Have fun watching that. It’s not one hundred percent factual, but I’m not pointing to it for substantiation… I’m pointing to it because you think all people who don’t agree with you are homophobic hate mongers.

  • Dana

    How ignorant are you that you compare drug addiction to being a lesbian? Choosing to shove a heroin filled syringe into your veins and being attracted to people of the same sex are nothing alike. You just provided further evidence that you are indeed bigoted and hateful. Nice try.

  • shadow_man

    Homosexuality is not a sin according to the Bible. Any educated Christian would know that. Scholars who have studied the Bible in context of the times and in relation to other passages have shown those passages (Leviticus, Corinthians, Romans, etc) have nothing to do with homosexuality. These passages often cherry-picked while ignoring the rest of the Bible. The sins theses passages are referring to are idolatry, prostitution, and rape, not homosexuality.

    http://www.soulfoodministry.org/docs/English/NotASin.htm
    http://www.jesus21.com/content/sex/bible_homosexuality_print.html
    http://www.christchapel.com/romans_inter.html
    http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/BiblicalReferences.php
    http://www.gaychristian101.com/

    Thats why Jesus never mentions it as well. There is nothing immoral, wrong, or sinful about being gay. Jesus, however, clearly states he HATES hypocrites. If you preach goodness, then promote hate and twist the words of the Bible, you are a hypocrite, and will be judged and sent to hell. Homosexuals will not go to hell, hypocrites will.

    This is very similar to the religious bigots of the past, where they took Bible passages to condone slavery, keep women down, and used Bible passages to claim blacks as curses who should be enslaved by the white man. People used God to claim that blacks marrying whites was unnatural, and not of God’s will.

  • shadow_man

    For those of you claiming homosexuality is a “lifestyle”, that is a false and ignorant statement. Homosexuality is not a choice. Just like you don’t choose the color of your skin, you cannot choose whom you are sexually attracted to. If you can, sorry, but you are not heterosexual, you are bi-sexual. Virtually all major psychological and medical experts agree that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Most gay people will tell you its not a choice. Common sense will tell you its not a choice. While science is relatively new to studying homosexuality, studies tend to indicate that its biological.

    http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/03/differential-brain-activation.pdf
    http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex.html
    Gay, Straight Men’s Brain Responses Differ
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155990,00.html
    http://www.livescience.com/health/060224_gay_genes.html
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/w27453600k586276/
    http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2008/06/16/172/

    There is overwhelming scientific evidence that homosexuality is not a choice. Sexual orientation is generally a biological trait that is determined pre-natally, although there is no one certain thing that explains all of the cases. “Nurture” may have some effect, but for the most part it is biological.

  • shadow_man

    Why voting NO on 1 doesn’t affect children.

    Some parents were afraid their children would be taught about gay marriage in our schools. Somehow this would undermine what they teach their children at home and through their respective “churches.” Yet we teach our children that polygamy exists in the world, that other religions exist, even the existence of atheism. Teaching that gay marriage exists is no more an endorsement than teaching about other religions or cultures. How much difference would there be teaching that domestic partnerships/civil unions exist between committed loving couples of the same gender? If people are so insecure in their personal faiths that they feel threatened by the teaching of the existence of other faiths and cultures, then perhaps we should ban from our history and civics courses all references to the diversity of religions and cultures in our world. That would certainly prepare our children for living in a pluralistic society and world.

    Also, why is it wrong? You cannot just ignore a fact of life, that homosexuality is a natural part of life and pretend it doesn’t exist. We should be teaching and informing kids of tolerance, and that sexuality is just another part of human life that’s not wrong. We should be teaching kids against discrimination and bigotry. We are not teaching them explicit details of gay sex, but the mere fact that gay marriage and homosexuals exist, and are a natural part of society and do harm to no others and aren’t wrong.

    Even in places where gay marriage is not legalized, children will learn of gay marriage, through television, internet, friends, etc. If you want to keep them in the dark, you better keep them locked in the closet from the outside world.

  • shadow_man

    This was taken from another poster that shows why we need to legalize gay marriage. If you don’t feel for this person after reading it, you simply aren’t human.

    “I am not sure what our President thinks of this dicission but coming from a poor family and knowing what discrimination is all about I would assume he would not care if “Gays” have equal rights. The whole reason why they are asking for rights to be considered married is from the same reason why I would be for it. My own life partner commited suicide in our home with a gun to his heart. After a 28 year union I was deprived to even go his funeral. We had two plots next to each other. But because we did not have a marriage cirtificate “(Legal Document)” of our union his mother had him cremated and his ashes taken back to Missouri where we came from. That is only one example how painful it is. His suicide tramatized me so much and her disregard for my feelings only added to my heartach. That happened on March 21 of 2007 and I still cannot type this without crying for the trauma I have to endure each day. Oh did I mention I am in an electric wheelchair for life? Yes I am and it is very diffacult to find another mate when you are 58 and in a wheelchair. “

  • shadow_man

    The people who collected signatures in Maine to stop marriage equality did so by misleading people, lying, and using deception. These people who claim to be “right” or “moral” but then use evil, sinful, lying ways. Here’s what one of my friends from Maine told me.

    “Sadly “Stand for Marriage Maine” collected many signatures by misleading people to believe they would not be able to vote unless they “registered” with those who were collecting signatures. At the Old Port Festival a woman at the top of Exchange Street was collecting signatures for the vote to ban gay marriage, but she was promoting it as if you were registering to vote. She said “Are you registered votes in Maine would you like to register here?” It was one sentence, she didn’t pause. I asked what we were registering for and she said “To determine if marriage is between a man and a woman or a man and a man or whatever.” Then came the best part, she said “Would you like to sign so you can vote?” As if I couldn’t vote if I didn’t sign. She wasn’t telling people that it was a petition to stop gay marriage by putting it to a vote, she was convincing people to sign thinking that they had to or they wouldn’t be allowed to vote. There was nothing that even indicated what or why people where to sign. It’s not about Gay Marriage, it’s about Hate and Control. The fact they collected signatures so quickly only proves they preyed on the elderly and ignorant. This only provides evidence that many Mainers still have much growing up to do.”

    Do you really want to support people who lied to you, deceived you, who are trying to force you to spread discrimination and bigotry? Don’t let these anti-gay people control your lives and choices. Support marriage equality in Maine and vote NO on 1.

  • Douglas

    Hahaha! I used it as evidence that your argument of “Bigot bigot bigot!” falls apart for anyone who has a disagreement with this issue. I disagree with the lifestyle she chose, but that doesn’t make me bigoted and hateful. I disagree with the lifestyle of those who use drugs. I’m not bigoted towards them either. Just because I disagree doesn’t mean that I hate them. I didn’t compare being a lesbian with using drugs. I used both of those examples to demonstrate things that I disagree with. Nice try for the second time.

  • Ryan Page

    Anti-equality campaigns are run by old, ignorant, fearful people.

    History will not treat these people kindly, their hatred will be captured in a much more public way than those fighting against inter-racial marriage.

    Repression such as this is doomed to fail. Old people cannot fight history

  • Mark Swaney

    Maine voters,
    The rest of the country are proud of you being on the front line for Marriage Equality. You’ve seen for yourselves that whether the gay guys down the street are living together or married doesn’t affect your marriage, or your family in the least. MA has been the test state for over 6 years, and none of the scary lies the opposition tells you are true. MA has the evidence NOTHING HAPPENS. No minister is silenced, no church is forced to do anything they find objectionable So the only thing supporting Maine question 1 would bring Maine is loss of revenue from marriages, and since I design weddings, I know the money spent on hotels, flowers, catering, limos, dress stores, tuxedo rental, bands, DJs, photographers, videographers, printers, travel agents, hair and nail salons, department stores, lawyers, and jewelers ……..those benefit all businesses.