Comments on: Letters: Same-sex couples are ‘incompatible’ http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/ The University of Maine student newspaper since 1875 Thu, 24 May 2012 03:20:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: John Howard http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6435 John Howard Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:09:35 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6435 Chris, you want an example of a major gay-rights figure saying either: “We demand the right to create offspring using genetically engineered artificial gametes!” or “We are fighting to strip heterosexual couples of the right to procreate!” They are all asking for equal rights, Chris. Equal to a married male-female couple. Now, do you agree or deny that a married male-female couple has a right to conceive offspring together, combining their genes to create biological progeny? If you deny that, then you are stripping the right to procreate from them. If you agree they do, then you are saying that a same-sex couple also has the right to create offspring together, which happens to require genetically engineered artificial gametes. Chris, you want an example of a major gay-rights figure saying either:

“We demand the right to create offspring using genetically engineered artificial gametes!”

or

“We are fighting to strip heterosexual couples of the right to procreate!”

They are all asking for equal rights, Chris. Equal to a married male-female couple. Now, do you agree or deny that a married male-female couple has a right to conceive offspring together, combining their genes to create biological progeny? If you deny that, then you are stripping the right to procreate from them. If you agree they do, then you are saying that a same-sex couple also has the right to create offspring together, which happens to require genetically engineered artificial gametes.

]]> By: John Howard http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6341 John Howard Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:47:17 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6341 No, hasn't it become clear by now that I am only talking about using genetically modified artificial gametes to enable same-sex procreation? That should not be allowed. Adoption law wouldn't change. Adoption is not a right of marriage anyhow, single people can adopt, and married couples can be told they are not fit to adopt. No, hasn’t it become clear by now that I am only talking about using genetically modified artificial gametes to enable same-sex procreation? That should not be allowed. Adoption law wouldn’t change. Adoption is not a right of marriage anyhow, single people can adopt, and married couples can be told they are not fit to adopt.

]]> By: Galena http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6266 Galena Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:08:28 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6266 There are thousands of children waiting for foster and adoptive families. Are you saying society would be HURT by us helping?? There are thousands of children waiting for foster and adoptive families. Are you saying society would be HURT by us helping??

]]> By: Chris http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6128 Chris Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:33:28 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6128 John, every single person who's responded to you is highly doubtful that there is any "real possibility" of mad homosexual scientists engineering their offspring. Also, I'm being an asshole. I've told you what I want to see as far as your proving your case. All you've done is shriek the same half-baked suppositions over and over again. I am bored. You amuse me. How long do you want to continue this? John, every single person who’s responded to you is highly doubtful that there is any “real possibility” of mad homosexual scientists engineering their offspring. Also, I’m being an asshole.

I’ve told you what I want to see as far as your proving your case. All you’ve done is shriek the same half-baked suppositions over and over again.

I am bored. You amuse me. How long do you want to continue this?

]]> By: John Howard http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6114 John Howard Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:11:49 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6114 What, are you truly ignorant of the real possibility of genetic engineering and same-sex conception and the actual people who want to be allowed to create people with modified genes, or are you being an asshole? Either way you look pretty small and stupid. What, are you truly ignorant of the real possibility of genetic engineering and same-sex conception and the actual people who want to be allowed to create people with modified genes, or are you being an asshole? Either way you look pretty small and stupid.

]]> By: John Howard http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6097 John Howard Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:48:45 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6097 OK, try telling everyone your position on same-sex procreation rights: Do you think same-sex couples should be allowed to try to create biologically related offspring together? OK, try telling everyone your position on same-sex procreation rights: Do you think same-sex couples should be allowed to try to create biologically related offspring together?

]]> By: John Howard http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6091 John Howard Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:47:06 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6091 Can you read? Same-sex couples should not have the same right to procreate together using their own genes that all married couples have always had and should always have. Can you read? Same-sex couples should not have the same right to procreate together using their own genes that all married couples have always had and should always have.

]]> By: Chris http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6087 Chris Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:32:14 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6087 Actually, all that research is just a distraction set up by the Martians so you won't notice them infiltrating the government. The reason they don't mention this is because they are trying to sneak it in on you in a very controlled strategy. "They" being the congresspeople and senators and lawmakers who are Martians, and who seek to control the future of the United States. Just like they've been trying to do since Fox Mulder's and Adolph Hitler's day. This is real, not fictitious. Actually, all that research is just a distraction set up by the Martians so you won’t notice them infiltrating the government.

The reason they don’t mention this is because they are trying to sneak it in on you in a very controlled strategy. “They” being the congresspeople and senators and lawmakers who are Martians, and who seek to control the future of the United States. Just like they’ve been trying to do since Fox Mulder’s and Adolph Hitler’s day.

This is real, not fictitious.

]]> By: John Howard http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6086 John Howard Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:28:26 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6086 Unlike Martians, there is currently actual research into stem-cell derived gametes and people are claiming the right to attempt same-sex procreation using whatever means might be available to them. It is real, not fictitious. Anyone can google "female sperm" or "postgenderism" or "Transhumansim" and see that they are serious about this. I'm not the one bringing up the issue of procreation rights for same-sex couples, tons of people are claiming equal rights as a man and a woman, including all the rights of marriage, and procreation is one of them. The reason they don't mention it is because they are purposefully trying to sneak it in on us, in a very controlled strategy. "They" being the eugenicists and feminists and postgenderists who are lawyers and biotech and fertility industry workers and who seek to control the future of reproduction, just like they have been trying to do since Francis Galton's and Margeret Sanger's and Adolph Hitler's day. Unlike Martians, there is currently actual research into stem-cell derived gametes and people are claiming the right to attempt same-sex procreation using whatever means might be available to them. It is real, not fictitious. Anyone can google “female sperm” or “postgenderism” or “Transhumansim” and see that they are serious about this. I’m not the one bringing up the issue of procreation rights for same-sex couples, tons of people are claiming equal rights as a man and a woman, including all the rights of marriage, and procreation is one of them.

The reason they don’t mention it is because they are purposefully trying to sneak it in on us, in a very controlled strategy. “They” being the eugenicists and feminists and postgenderists who are lawyers and biotech and fertility industry workers and who seek to control the future of reproduction, just like they have been trying to do since Francis Galton’s and Margeret Sanger’s and Adolph Hitler’s day.

]]> By: Ryan Page http://mainecampus.com/2009/10/29/letters-same-sex-couples-are-%e2%80%98incompatible%e2%80%99/#comment-6067 Ryan Page Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:53:15 +0000 http://mainecampus.com/?p=3724486#comment-6067 who's they? no the the no on one folks. Find me one document to prove it. I think we should ignore the fact that you're leaving comments. who’s they? no the the no on one folks. Find me one document to prove it. I think we should ignore the fact that you’re leaving comments.

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